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    And he asked:
    Bring me one example...
    I will give him four basic examples:

    Four: (from the Salaf)

    قيل ليوسف بن أسباط لما تكلم في رجل : ما تخاف أن تكون هذه غيبة . فقال للسائل ؟ لم يا أحمق ؟ أنا خير لهؤلاء من آبائهم وأمهاتهم ، أنا أنهي الناس أن يعلموا بما أحدثوا فتتبعهم أوزارهم ومن أطراهم كان أضر عليهم


    So here we have Yusuf bin Asbaat warning against someone, and an individual standing says don't you fear this is Ghyba? He replies and says: Why you fool? for I am more beneficial to these people than there fathers and mothers, I stop the people from knowing the innovations that these people are bringing to them, so they do not follow in sin.

    Three: (from the Sahabah)
    في صحيح مسلم عندما أتى يحيى بن معمر وعبدالرحمن الحميري حاجين أو معتمرين فقالوا لو أننا نلقى أحد من أصحاب النبي الله صلى الله عليه وسلم فنخبره ما قال هؤلاء في القدر فوفق لنا عبد الله بن عمر داخل المسجد فاكتنفته أنا وصاحبي أحدنا عن يمينه والآخر عن شماله فضننت أن صاحبي سيكل الكلام إلي فقلت يا أبا عبد الرحمن ظهر قبلنا ناس يقرءون القرآن ويتقفرون العلم وذكر من شأنهم وأنهم يزعمون أن لا قدر وأن الأمر أنف فقال ابن عمر إذا لقيت أولئك فأخبرهم أني بري منهم وأنهم برآء مني والذي يحلف به ابن عمر لو أن لأحدهم مثل أحد ذهباً فأنفقه ما قبل الله منه حيى يؤمن بالقدر ثم قال حدثني أبي عمر بن الخطاب ...حديث جبرائيل


    And here Ibn Umar is sitting in the Masjid (it was said in other narrations the Haram) and people came to him and they were from Iraq and they told him there are people back home that are talking about the Qadr and denying it, so he said tell them that I am free from them and they are free from me.
    And this was in the middle of the Masjid !!!

    Two:

    عن أبي سعيد قال:بينا النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم يقسم جاء "عبدالله بن ذي الخويصرة" التميمي فقال: اعدِلْ يا رسول الله، فقال: ويلك من يعدل إذا لم أعدل؟! إلى أن قال: هم كلاب أهل النار


    And here we have the Prophet Sala Allah 'alihi w salim while dividing the wealth of Bahrain between the people (I made it in red so he can see it) and thul khuwaisera said be just ya Muhamed, you all know the full hadeath
    what did the Prophet say at the end: (They are the dog of hell) and this was to whom ???

    One:

    { يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آَمَنُوا إِنْ جَاءَكُمْ فَاسِقٌ بِنَبَأٍ فَتَبَيَّنُوا أَنْ تُصِيبُوا قَوْمًا بِجَهَالَةٍ فَتُصْبِحُوا عَلَى مَا فَعَلْتُمْ نَادِمِينَ}


    This verse says: O you who Believe ........

    Now Imam Ashafa'i said Knowledge is to be taken from top to bottom.

    and I here did the opposite, to show you my dear brother, that which ever way you look at it, he has no clue what he is taking about.

    And about the whole Ulamaa being harsh, you must know and keep in mind that is was about the memorization and delivery of Hadeath not innovation.

    The true known reality is that the harder they were on innovators the more they would be praised by the rest of the Ulamaa

    My proof:

    قال معاوية ابن صالح الأشعري: سألت أحمد بن حنبل عن شريك، فقال: (( كان عاقلاً صدوقاً محدثاً، وكان شديداً على أهل الريب والبدع ))

    قال الإمام مالك: (( كان ابن هرمز قليل الكلام، وكان يشدّ على أهل البدع، وكان أعلم الناس بما اختلفوا فيه مــن ذلك، وكــذا كان عبد الرحمن بن القاسم))

    قال البيهقي: وكان الشافعي - رضي الله عنه - شديداً على أهل الإلحاد وأهل البدع مجاهراً ببغضهم وهجرهم


    And this ya Ikhwan is but the drizzle of the storm.
    So if he wants more we will bring him more
    One statement of proof is enough for those wanting the truth
    And a thousand proofs are not enough for those not wanting it

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    The common people need to be warned against the groups and parties more than the students!

    Ash-Shaykh Allaamah Saalih Al-Fawzaan was asked:

    Is it obligatory upon the scholars to clarify to the youth and the common people the danger of partisanship, splitting and groups?

    Answer:

    Yes it is obligatory to clarify the danger of partisanship and dividing and splitting so that the people can be upon insight and understanding because even the common people are being deceived.

    How many of the common people in this time have been fooled by some of the groups because they believe that they are upon the truth?

    So it is a must that we clarify to the people, the students and the common people, the danger of these parties and sects because if they remained silent [i.e. the scholars] then the people would say, “The scholars were aware of this and they remained silent.”

    Due to this innovation would enter upon them. So it is necessary to clarify these matters when these things appear.

    The danger for the common people is greater than the danger [posed] to the students because if the scholars remain silent the common people will think that this is correct and that this is the truth.

    Al-Ajwibah Al-Mufeedah (page 131)
    Here we have our brother, Muhammad Muneer-may Allah pardon him- saying:

    When does Al-Jarh Wa-Ta'deel apply to the layman Muslim, the nine to five Muslim. The man who walks out of the Masjid; he is going to go to work and he listens to the radio at work and there is Kuffaar women around him at work. Is that going to benefit his heart as a Muslim? Is that going to allow him to go the rest of the day making Dhikr of Allah, seeking Rizq for his family? Is that going to help him? I am asking you will that help him?
    I sincerely hope that the brother retracts these erroneous and dangerous statements where he has offered no details or elaboration, only general and absolute statements.


 

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