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    Jazaakumullaahu khayran for that information, I didn't see it at first, but the document mentions the original date of appointment as 12th April 2001. If Umar and Ahmad have been appointed officers since 2001 and this is all official and legal and documented in government paperwork, and the da'wah has been operating like this for ten years, and this is known by Harun Cole and Said Ali, (which appears to be the case from the surrounding circumstantial facts), frankly, I can't find any words to describe their actions except very negative ones without actually saying them. Their unwitting use of this letter of recommendation for Said Ali in their rebuttal undermines their position, and it looks like Allaah caused these brothers not to see this despite the fact it is obvious to the onlooker.

    When these brothers identified themselves as the writers and signatories to these recent documents which present their side of the story, they mentioned how long they have been with TROID. This must have been to help build confidence in the people for the cause they intended to pursue but it is something that works against them, not for them and undermines their position too. This is the list here as I found in their 11th document (I've removed some of the names, except those who are already the subject of discussion in this thread):

    • Said Ali (founder of TROID)
    • Aron (Haroon) Cole (founder of TROID)
    • [name removed] (approximately 13 years with TROID, ex-Imaam, ex-Shoorah member and ex-Khateeb (until recently))
    • [name removed] (approximately 9 years with TROID, ex-Shoorah member, ex-volunteer in several departments)
    • [name removed] (approximately 7 years with TROID, ex-volunteer in TROID store and Audio department)
    • [name removed] (approximately 8 years with TROID, ex-volunteer)
    • [name removed] (approximately 5 years with TROID, ex-volunteer)
    • [name removed] (approximately 5 years with TROID, ex-volunteer)

    Accordingly, every person in this list has spent at least five years with TROID. This means that each and every single one of these brothers spent at least five years at TROID, knowing full well that Ahmad and Umar are president and secretary respectively, happily working alongside them for all that time (between 5 to 10 years), interacting with them, spending time with them, co-operating with them, never making any such claim that they are making now in 2011. They served in the capacity of imaam or shooraa member or volunteer or worked in the store or gave khutbah for these respective time periods (five to ten years from after April 2001) and they never said anything about Ahmad and Umar having been appointed fraudulently as far as I am aware. Said Ali even solicited a letter of recommendation from Ahmad in his capacity as president in June 2010, which is less than a year before these recent activities commenced from what I have gathered so far. These brothers were happy to use this letter of reccommendation to defend Said Ali in their recent documents not realizing that it undermines their cause. Hence, in my view, when each one of them put their name to this statement:

    Readers should note at this point that Umar al-Hashimee has no legal position in this organization. His appointment as a Secretary and Ahmed Assing's appointment as the President were fraudulent, punishable by law.
    I cannot see this except as false witness, Allaahul-Musta'aan. Allaah, Exalted said:

    وَالَّذِينَ لَا يَشْهَدُونَ الزُّورَ

    And those who do not witness false speech
    (25:82)

    And He also said:

    فَاجْتَنِبُوا الرِّجْسَ مِنَ الْأَوْثَانِ وَاجْتَنِبُوا قَوْلَ الزُّورِ

    And shun the abomination of idols and shun false witness (22:30)

    And Ibn Katheer narrates, regarding this verse:

    وقال سفيان الثوري ، عن عاصم بن أبي النجود ، عن وائل بن ربيعة ، عن ابن مسعود أنه قال : تعدل شهادة الزور بالشرك بالله ، ثم قرأ هذه الآية
    And Sufyan al-Thawri said, from Aasim bin Abi al-Nujud, from Waa'il bin Rabi'ah, from Ibn Mas'uud that he said, "False witness is put on the same level as Shirk with Allaah", then he recited this verse.
    And Abu Bakrah (radiallaahu anhu) reported:

    قال رسول الله -صلى الله عليه وسلم-: (ألا أنبئكم بأكبر الكبائر؟) ثلاثاً، قلنا: بلى يا رسول الله، قال: الشرك بالله، وعقوق الوالدين، وكان متكئاً فجلس، فقال: (ألا وقول الزور، ألا وشهادة الزور) فما زال يكررها حتى قلنا: ليته سكت"
    The Messenger of Allaah (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) said, "Shall I not inform you of the greatest of the major sins?" We said, "Of course O Messenger of Allaah." He said, "Associating partners with Allaah, being undutiful to one's parents," [saying this whilst] he was leaning, but then he sat up and said, "And indeed, false speech, indeed, false witness" and he never ceased repeating this until we said, "If only he became silent." Reported by al-Bukhari and Muslim.
    And I fear the following, the statement of the Messenger (alayhis salaam), with respect to them and their fasting, may Allaah protect me and the Muslims from it:

    من لم يدع قول الزور والعمل به فليس لله حاجة في أن يدع طعامه وشرابه
    "Whoever does not leave off making false speech and acting upon it, then Allaah is not in need of him leaving his food and drink." Reported by al-Bukhari.
    I think these brothers have unfortunately been greatly misled in their actions and must stop and seriously reflect upon this entire episode for the benefit of their own souls. I am only pointing out what is very obvious at first glance from what these brothers have written themselves. They have undermined their own cause without anyone else even needing to do so. I ask Allaah to end this discord, to rectify the affairs, to strengthen the da'wah of TROID in the call to Tawhid, Sunnah and Salafiyyah and to make it even bigger, stronger and better than what it was before this discord, Ameen.
    -== abu.iyaad =-


 

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